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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig, don't get all upset. These things are never black or white and nobody will disagree that your bike was not one of the best. Whether that was down to previous owner neglect or the bike in general I guess we'l never know.

I'm no stranger to bikes with issues. I rode Harleys for 16 years, nearly 9 of those on a Sportster. Despite a design that runs from the 50s the Sportster still had fundamental design problems that often had me hovering outside the Honda dealer thinking "should I?"

So, I empathise as well as sympathise.



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ginger Phil you lucky bugger Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

In that case I'd sugest a MK2 500! Very Happy best of both worlds!



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikerdezzie wrote:
philbc, what ya mean the tmax is dated, have you not seen the new shape mk 3 version, its by far the best looking max there is goddammit, the rest just wish they could afford one so they slag it off out of sheer jelousy! Laughing


I can afford one. I've never slagged it off. I'm not buying one. Razz



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

having owned a 500cc scoot before, I wasnt keen on the yearly running costs that seemed to cripple my pocket at every service interval!
personally I didnt find the smiles per mile ratio outweigh the cost, but I do like the odd blast on a 500!
certainly cheaper than the sports bike in the garage though!


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capitano I'm not upset Laughing so sorry if I sounded bitter Laughing I just really don't rate the Nexus now but whichever scoot Phil bc goes for I hope it's problem free for him Very Happy otherwise he'll endup bitter towards Gilera like me Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikerdezzie wrote:
the rest just wish they could afford one so they slag it off out of sheer jelousy!


I'd prefer TWO Nexus'es! Icon_finger Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

am a tmax riding imbecile and proud, and yes, I do ride like an imbecile! who cares! Very Happy its the best thing av rode without pubic hair!


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bikerdezzie wrote:
am a tmax riding imbecile and proud, and yes, I do ride like an imbecile! who cares! Very Happy its the best thing av rode without pubic hair!


Laughing My response was a bastardised version of what a US biker told me about Harley and Honda.

It's more about missing service intervals, not checking stuff daily etc etc ie stuff that is pretty essential to the wellbeing of a Harley but that you can probably get away with on a Honda.

It kind of applies to Italian v Jap stuff bikewise, too though.

Sorry to hear about you losing your pubic hair, mate. Very Happy



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? not my pubic hair dafty, am comparing it to riding a shaven haven, you know, be gentle at first, warm it up a bit, tease its sensuous curves then twist the loud handle and braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, ride it like ya stole it!, you get me now rude boy! Icon_rasta_cool


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the running in instructions from the Yamaha manual?

Only, it's a bit different from when I bought a new Yamaha some years ago. I guess times change, eh? Very Happy



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get my karma sutra and my yam manual mixed up all the time, nearly had a major accident when puttin me fluids in at service time once, got a muscle spasm!


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, back on topic (sort of)...

Don't let the perceived Yamaha servicing costs put you off the TMAX. The service interval is every 6k miles (something that the Piaggio group has only just caught up on) and the bits last for ages. The recommended belt change is every 12k miles, but experience with my old Mk1 TMAX showed that you can run this out to 18k miles with no bother. Brake pads were lasting 24k miles on the front and 30k miles on the rear, and tyres were only going at around 18k miles. The only "non-service" parts that ever needed replacing in almost 40k miles of use were a speedo sender (the only fault I ever had) and a set of fork seals. Unlike the Piaggio MASTER engines, everything on the TMAX engine that might go wrong can be got at without having to split the crankcase.

Besides, the TMAX isn't that much pricier to service than any other equivalent scoot no matter what the "opposition" might say. When I had an Aprilia Atlantic 500 Sprint I was anticipating I would save a packet, but I was wrong. The scoot went in for a standard service (oils, spark plug, general check) and I was rushed for an eye-watering £140. Heaven only knows how much it might have been if I'd needed a new belt (every 7500 miles), tyres or brake pads.

If you preferred the TMAX riding position, you really should get a spin on the new model. The screen and front aero on the old one was terrible, but the new version is just so much better. It also looks a damn sight nicer and rides very pleasantly too. It's a shame if your local Yammy dealer is a bit of a tit but, while good support is important, I really think you would be missing out just because you don't like him.

Leaving aside the whole TMAX v Nexus bullshit, would you really be happy with just 250 cubes after having 500...? I've done the same thing myself and regretted it. The smaller scoots were OK, but I found that I was restricted to the type of roads I could safely use. Overtakes required more planning and I was affected more by the direction and strength of the wind. Going back up to 500cc meant that I no longer had to worry about my choice of route and the prevailing wind conditions because I knew that I had the power there to tackle almost any situation.



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have to say had gileras for about 5 years and never let me down use them all year round with no problems
phil are you in the notts area ? what dealer do you use ?


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phil bc wrote:
long distance rides of course with the usual mon to fri work run of 12 miles each way mainly done on B roads


Well in that case a 250 is perfect then..The Piaggio quaser engine is a fantastic engine with no inherent problems, unlike it's larger 500cc Master engine sibling. I would be surprised if you chose a 250 Nexus you would have any problems. I don't think there's a bad 250 on the market.
Also 250 engines have the ability to do the distance as well. Obviously they don't have quite the go of a 500, but then again the running costs are a lot lower as well and these days there's a lot to be said for that! Nothing wrong being able to criuse at 65-70mph and getting 75-80mpg.



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